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Thursday, June 25th, 2009
3:00 A.M.

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Today marks the 133rd 'anniversary' of a day in history that the Native Americans took a stand. And had victory. Many deaths, my way of thinking, tho there were fatalities, it was a victory for a short while...If you know your American history, the Native Americans were gravely cheated by the United States Government. I'm not so sure that I too would want revenge if I were of the Sioux Nation. Afterall, if you think about it....they were trying to protect their land. Some land was sacred. Protecting their people and countryside from any harm is what wars are. They too, in a way, were all but patriots of their own right. And you have to give 'em that!! I still, to this day, think that the Native Americans are being cheated by their own government. There are still reservations [tho, it pleases me to no end that they now have a repertoire of abilities beyond the control of the Feds....with casinos....and the USA can not collect any tax...yippee for them, high 5!!]. My husband is an avid supporter of General George Armstrong Custer - the epic story. Until I said once [granted I didn't know beans about this guy through history until I married Bud]....I said after listening to him and reading some of his huge collection of books on the subject....I said [ya, I'm getting to it] "To me, the man was a glory seeker". "He wanted his name in the history books as a great Indian slayer!!" "The greatest White Man, ever!" From that point on, my dear Bud has tamed his fascination with the legendary general and has come to realize that maybe, just maybe I am right. I personally have said over and over, the Indians have and had every right to kick ass.

The day of infamy is the day of the Battle of the Little Bighorn. June 25th, 1876. Once known as Custer's Last Stand.

1] There are different accounts of how many U S 7th Cavalry died there in the brutal retaliation of the Sioux Nation with a surprise attack. Accounts are in the hundreds...but the exact count will probably never be known. Anywhere from 250 to 270 souls of the American Cavalry lost their lives. 16 officers died.

2] The infamous battle took place near the river...Little Bighorn...on the land now belonging to the Crow tribe....called Crow Agency, in Montana, USA [photo from our vacation albums]

3] Top Left -George Armstrong Custer - 4]Right is brother, Thomas Custer. 5] Center, Chief Sitting Bull [Oglala Sioux - of the Hunkpapa tribe] 6]Bottom Left -Benteen - 7]Right is Reno [photos courtesy of the internet]

8] Have you ever heard the song: Please Mr. Custer?

9] George Custer married Elizabeth Clift Bacon on February 9th, 1864. [my birth day] According to Captain Frederick Benteen, chief of scouts Ben Clark, and Cheyenne oral history, Custer had a sexual relationship with Mo-nah-se-tah during the winter and early spring of 1868-1869. Mo-nah-se-tah gave birth to a child in January 1869, two months after the Washita battle; Cheyenne oral history alleges that she later bore a second child, fathered by Custer, in late 1869. [also according to legendary facts, she died at the, who really knows the truths of this?]

9B] From Wikipedia: In 1938, Joseph White Cow Bull [Anni's Note: he was noted to be the one who personally slayed George Custer at the battle], an Oglala Lakota veteran of the Battle of the Little Bighorn, went with David Humphreys Miller to the Little Bighorn battlefield and recounted to him his recollections of the battle. Among his recollections: "While we were together in this village [on the Little Bighorn River], I spent most of my time with the Shahiyela [Cheyenne] since I knew their tongue and their ways almost as well as my own. In all those years I had never taken a wife, although I had had many women. One woman I wanted was a pretty young Shahiyela named Monahseetah, or Meotxi as I called her. She was in her middle twenties but had never married any man of her tribe. Some of my Shahiyela friends said she was from the southern branch of their tribe, just visiting up north, and they said no Shahiyela could marry her because she had a seven-year-old son born out of wedlock and that tribal law forbade her getting married. They said the boy’s father had been a white soldier chief named Long Hair; he had killed her father, Chief Black Kettle [sic], in a battle in the south [Battle of the Washita] eight winters before, they said, and captured her. He had told her he wanted to make her his second wife, and so he had her. But after while his first wife, a white woman, found her out and made him let her go. Miller asked White Cow Bull, "Was this boy still with her here?" and White Cow Bull answered: "Yes, I saw him often around the Shahiyela camp. He was named Yellow Bird."
[photo of Yellowbird aka Yellowtail, courtesy of the 'net]

10] The 7th Cavalry departed from Fort Lincoln [North Dakota] on May 17, 1876, part of a larger army force planning to round up remaining free Indians. Meanwhile, in the spring and summer of 1876, the Hunkpapa Lakota holy man Sitting Bull had called together the largest ever gathering of plains Indians at Ash Creek, Montana (later moved to the Little Bighorn River) to discuss what to do about the whites. It was this united encampment of Lakota, Northern Cheyenne, and Arapaho Indians that the 7th met at the Battle of the Little Bighorn.

11] A painting depicting Custer "Yellow Hair" at the battle, dying. [photos from our guest bedroom wall.]

12] Irene's first vacation trip away from her home? ...And where do we take her? Yep, you guessed it! Custer's Battlefield [called that back in 1971, now it's Little Bighorn Battlefield]. This is the year that she said loud and clear while we were in the Crow Agency's Gift Shop/Restaurant ---"Look at all the dirty people." Run by Native Americans with 'dark skin' of course!! I coulda died!!!

13] The exact number of Indian warriors participating in the battle has never been determined and remains controversial. It has been estimated that in the overall battle the warriors outnumbered the 7th Cavalry by approximately three to one, or roughly 1800 against 600. In Custer's fight, this ratio could have increased to as high as nine to one (1800 against 200) after his isolated command became the main focus of the fighting. Some historians, however, claim the ratio of the Custer fight to be as low as three to one. At any rate, Custer's detachment was certainly outnumbered and was caught in the open on unfamiliar terrain. Native American casualties and wounded vary few as 36 dead (from Indian listings of the dead by name) to as many as 300. The Sioux Chief Red Horse told Col. W. H. Wood that the Indians suffered 136 dead and 160 wounded during the battle.

~...End Thursday 13
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  1. you sure surprised me --- no landline phone!!

    have a great time with the rest of the week!!

  2. You really bless me my friend. Coming to your blog everyday is such an adventure, an enjoyable adventure. I learn history lessons, see beautiful pictures, and always can find a laugh, or two. Thank you.

  3. Anonymous6/25/2009

    Great post. Your 7 and 12 on Thunks was almost the same as mine. Love the lists. Have a great Thursday :)

  4. What a great way to get to know you better!

  5. I certainly agree with you regarding the Native Americans. They got a bad deal all round.

  6. Anonymous6/25/2009

    Wow, I never knew that about pandas..thanks for enlightening me! Love your blog :)

    Happy Thursday!

  7. I like Indian names - Sitting Bull, Dances with Wolves (ok, the movie :) Thanks for the story. Happy T13!

  8. oh boy, i love the last question with its answer! and thanks for all the tidbits of information you give me about america. more informative than school, lemme tell ya!

  9. Educational and Informative...way to use T13 to enlighten us all. And I LOVE your desktop background picture. ;)

  10. Ahh yes, I guess the world is ending so why not buy the candy from the adult, huh?

    Great answers!

  11. Hi Hootin' Annie!

    Loved your answers for both memes. Great info on 13!

    Happy Thursday!

  12. Wow, a history lesson on Thursday morning! This was great, thanks for posting. Having just seen Night at the Museum 2, the kids are interested in learning more about Custer. You provided some good information.

  13. Ah Texas -- I remember very large cockroaches :P but it had other charms:)

    I like that Stevenson quote.

  14. I agree with you about Custer and I think he was a coward.

    I liked your answers to the questions. I haven't had a land line phone in 6 years. It is really liberating. I don't get calls from people I don't want to talk to. Even friends have learned that I don't talk on the phone. I do chat with my sister online but that is different.
    #9 When I was a girl, we didn't shop for clothes, Mother made them all. We lived in a rural agricultural area. The only department stores were for rich people.
    Did you paint the picture of Custer?
    Mama Bear

  15. A very thoughtful way to start the day, Anni.

  16. Anni,

    I have always wanted to go to the Black Hills to see the battlefield. This is an interesting part of history to me. Hubby and I were just talking about Custer the other night when they mentioned the anniversary date on TV. Custer was a glory seeker for sure. He wanted to go down in history and he has but for a different reason.

    I emphasize with the Native Americans and Canadians who have had their land stolen by our governments. The battle continues here to this day. There have been land protests and Natives are taking back what was stolen from them. It's about time.

    Hope you have a great day and thanks for the interesting history lesson.


  17. Great info - love the song!

    I like the new header.

  18. boy this is better than history class was! hubby is Creek indian (OK) and his "famous" sentiment is.... if Columbus was greeted by the indians when he discovered america, how did he discover america if the indians were there?" makes total sense to me.


  19. Mama Bear No...I didn't paint that. Wish I could say yes, but alas...nope.

  20. love your desktop!

    Panda beer sounds good - ya think?


  21. Love your new headline picture.
    Interesting story, I think we once had the story told us at school, when America was some place too far to ever think about going to! Nice to be reminded of it.
    I have hard the song too, on the little video.
    Love Granny

  22. Anni, your backgrounds never cease to amaze me!

    Loved the Custer list; anytime I can learn something, I'm quite a happy camper. Thanks for sharing!

  23. Great info in a clever way. Thanks! Happy T13!

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  25. Jeeze had to re write this..I had so many typos....

    Your thursday Thunks were fun...:-)

    Thanks for stopping by mine!! Yes it would probably be just as cheap to get a maid...LOL well not really! But I'd love one if I could get one...But, that won't happen :-(

  26. Great answers-yes-would have to have a favorite food on the last day. : )

  27. Anonymous6/25/2009

    Very interesting history lesson, I agree 100% that the Indians had every right to do what they did (& probably much more than they ever did to the people who took their land). Did you watch that PBS American Experience series on Native Americans earlier this year? It was very interesting.

  28. Anonymous6/25/2009

    I don't talk on the phone either. I use to... a lot, but haven't for years. Even my cell phone is rarely used. I might use 5 min. a month. I would cancel it but I keep it in case I need to call AAA to change a tire or something.

    Love your answers.

  29. Anonymous6/25/2009

    I love your desktop background! Very pretty!

  30. What a great photo of Farrah, I didn't know she died, but I knew she was getting close. Have a GREAT Thursday:)

  31. I hadn't heard of Farrah Fawcett's passing ... though I knew she was quite ill. Thanks for the history review ... enjoyed your 'thunks' even though I don't play ;--)
    Hugs and blessings,

  32. I was so saddened to hear of Farrah Fawcett's passing. She was beautiful and strong until the very end.

    I so enjoyed my history lesson today:-) The natives are still fighting over here in Canada for what rightly belongs to them and although the government has given apologies for the wrong done to the natives, it's just not enough. I had to smile when you said you're so happy that they can have repertoire of abilities beyond the control of the Feds because it's the same here between selling cigarettes, casinos, gas,etc. The government can't collect a penny for taxes:-)

    As for Custer, I remember learning about him in history class but that's as far as it goes.

    I also enjoyed reading your Thursday sure is surprising that you have no land lines or jacks for phones! I think that's so cool! lol xoxo

  33. You did a great job researching this. As I was reading I almost said aloud, "So all we know about Custer's Last Stand is what we don't know?" because it seems as though you couldn't find much that was definitive about the major points. Oh well, I guess a little mystery makes it more intriguing.

    Thanks for visiting my TT.

  34. This was a very informative post and well written. I agree with you about how our true Americans are treated and I say high 5 for their casinos, they are building one about five miles from us. I really enjoyed this post. I have 1/4 Cherokee from my dads side. Have a great week.

  35. Applause for a wonderful post! I agree with your opinions about the Native Americans, and the way they are and have been treated.

  36. I have always rated Custer as an impetuous, glory seeking, homicidal poltroon.

    Talk about spooky! I mentioned "Please Mr Custer" to my wife a couple of days ago and that has to be the first time I have thought about that song for about 30 years!